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Post  SgtBarnes75 on Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:14 pm

Hi Guys & gals
As it says in the title, I need to seriously improve my heavy skills. As of last night I have have my TS3 working now so I can get more involved in SGTA. Could anyone help me out please. I play mainly after 8 pm GMT when the kids are asleep. I do play a lot at work during the day too but I have no sound or TS3 capability so it would be battle chat only and having to AFK a lot when I have to serve pesky customers Laughing so it would be more suitable in the evenings if possible. I have a Tiger, Tiger II, IS 3, Churchill 1 and a KV1S. Its mainly the first three I seem to have poor results with even though I enjoy them and are very capable great tanks. I love playing meds aggressively and the VK3601 suits me well and I also play lights and scouts ok but I just seem stuck with the heavies.

Many thanks in advance
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Post  Rancidpunk on Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:46 am

I'll be on this evening if you want to platoon, from 8 uk time, just give me a shout on TS3 Smile

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Post  SgtBarnes75 on Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:05 am

Thanks sounds like a plan. See you tonight

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Post  Boos B on Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:44 am

you can also ping me if you want to.

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Post  SgtBarnes75 on Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:05 am

thank you

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Post  Rancidpunk on Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:52 am

I'll be on server EU1 btw Smile

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Post  SgtBarnes75 on Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:39 pm

Thanks for your time last night Rancidpunk. I found platooning a lot more relaxed than solo and I played a lot better than I ever have in my heavies. Plus I quietly picked up a few new positions and moves last night although I faded out a bit at the end. Hope to toon up again soon with you. Still cannot believe how that KV5 of yours went up that rock face Laughing

Cheers!
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Post  Rancidpunk on Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:31 pm

SgtBarnes75 wrote:Thanks for your time last night Rancidpunk. I found platooning a lot more relaxed than solo and I played a lot better than I ever have in my heavies. Plus I quietly picked up a few new positions and moves last night although I faded out a bit at the end. Hope to toon up again soon with you. Still cannot believe how that KV5 of yours went up that rock face Laughing

Cheers!
Mark

No problem, really enjoyed it!
I tend to play the heavies that are best for my style, heavy assault. As you saw, Inorien in his Lowe needs to stay back and take advantage of his excellent gun but if we swapped places and I drove the Lowe the way I drive the KV5 I'd be slaughtered in seconds so tank choice is vital.
Your Churchill, for example, is a very powerful tank but needs to get in close, accurate enough gun for the odd long shot but way more effective up close and firing 3 shots for every two the enemy tank can manage. The main point being you have a much better chance of penetrating with every shot up close and so causing damage and reaching that vital target of at least a 1000 damage every game if you are playing tier 4 to tier 7.
Tier 8 and above I aim for at least 1500 - 2000 damage per game or it's a crap match for me, win or lose.

Anyway, if you see me online and want a platoon just send me an invite, can't be bad having another evening's tooning with over 80% wins Smile

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Post  Inorien on Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:40 pm

Rancidpunk wrote: As you saw, Inorien in his Lowe needs to stay back and take advantage of his excellent gun but if we swapped places and I drove the Lowe the way I drive the KV5 I'd be slaughtered in seconds so tank choice is vital.

Believe it or not, I seriously dislike the Lowe. It doesn't fit the playstyle I prefer with other tanks - I'd rather IS6 instead. But I'll persevere Very Happy

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Post  Ding760 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:45 am

Inorien wrote:
Rancidpunk wrote: As you saw, Inorien in his Lowe needs to stay back and take advantage of his excellent gun but if we swapped places and I drove the Lowe the way I drive the KV5 I'd be slaughtered in seconds so tank choice is vital.

Believe it or not, I seriously dislike the Lowe. It doesn't fit the playstyle I prefer with other tanks - I'd rather IS6 instead. But I'll persevere Very Happy

A serious disadvantage for the Lowe is it's too common. People know where and how to shoot it to the extent it's almost natural. The tank itself is not bad at all, its just your enemies are used to shooting it by now.

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Post  CountOfTuscany on Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:52 am

Ding760 wrote:
A serious disadvantage for the Lowe is it's too common. People know where and how to shoot it to the extent it's almost natural. The tank itself is not bad at all, its just your enemies are used to shooting it by now.

Lowe hasn't got the tickest armor in it's tier, it's frontal turret got some good slopes, but the other parts are thin. besides Lowe is slowe so I dont really have a problem killing those. You dont really need to search for weakspots to damage a Lowe.

Edit:

I'm interested in some lesson/toons on KV-5. Love the thing, bring it upclose and bounce like crazy pushing flanks forward. I'd like to learn more and better tactics for it and also how to deal more damage. My usually outcome of the battle is like this: 4k potential damage, 1000 damage dealt. I want to improve my damage dealing capability, but it's a bit though with only 167 pen..

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Post  Inorien on Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:23 am

CountOfTuscany wrote:Lowe is slowe

I see what you did there. I will use that turn of phrase more in the future.

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Post  CountOfTuscany on Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:54 am

Inorien wrote:
CountOfTuscany wrote:Lowe is slowe

I see what you did there. I will use that turn of phrase more in the future.

It's actually not my phrase, I read it on the WOT wiki or WOt forums some time ago.

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Post  Sabot_1 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:39 am

Ding760 wrote:
Inorien wrote:
Rancidpunk wrote: As you saw, Inorien in his Lowe needs to stay back and take advantage of his excellent gun but if we swapped places and I drove the Lowe the way I drive the KV5 I'd be slaughtered in seconds so tank choice is vital.

Believe it or not, I seriously dislike the Lowe. It doesn't fit the playstyle I prefer with other tanks - I'd rather IS6 instead. But I'll persevere Very Happy

A serious disadvantage for the Lowe is it's too common. People know where and how to shoot it to the extent it's almost natural. The tank itself is not bad at all, its just your enemies are used to shooting it by now.

Also i find i end up with more tier 10 in games lately.

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Post  Inorien on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:51 am

Sabot_1 wrote:
Ding760 wrote:
Inorien wrote:
Rancidpunk wrote: As you saw, Inorien in his Lowe needs to stay back and take advantage of his excellent gun but if we swapped places and I drove the Lowe the way I drive the KV5 I'd be slaughtered in seconds so tank choice is vital.

Believe it or not, I seriously dislike the Lowe. It doesn't fit the playstyle I prefer with other tanks - I'd rather IS6 instead. But I'll persevere Very Happy

A serious disadvantage for the Lowe is it's too common. People know where and how to shoot it to the extent it's almost natural. The tank itself is not bad at all, its just your enemies are used to shooting it by now.

Also i find i end up with more tier 10 in games lately.

I've been getting that too. Not sure what's going on - I don't think WG changed anything though. I reckon people are developing their T10s for the upcoming patch, so there's just more of them in MM.

Edit: Sorry we kinda hijacked your thread, SgtBarnes. Can we get these posts moved to a Heavy Discussion forum?

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Post  Rancidpunk on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:13 am

Your Lowe's and other tier 8 premiums won't normally get tier tens unless you are in a platoon with non premium tier 8's. If it's changed recently one solution - use gold shells Smile

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Post  Sabot_1 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:32 am

Rancidpunk wrote:Your Lowe's and other tier 8 premiums won't normally get tier tens unless you are in a platoon with non premium tier 8's. If it's changed recently one solution - use gold shells Smile

Up until recently that seemed to be the case today I had 4 tier 10 a few tier 9 and the rest of the cannon fodder and I was not in a platoon (Gold rounds are there other types then Shocked ) Laughing

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Post  Boos B on Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:48 pm

Rancidpunk wrote:Your Lowe's and other tier 8 premiums won't normally get tier tens unless you are in a platoon with non premium tier 8's. If it's changed recently one solution - use gold shells Smile
Not true. Lowe, t34, su-122-44 get normal matchmaking as tier 8 and therefore can get into tier 10 battles (tier 9 for su).


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Post  Rancidpunk on Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:47 pm

Boos B wrote:
Rancidpunk wrote:Your Lowe's and other tier 8 premiums won't normally get tier tens unless you are in a platoon with non premium tier 8's. If it's changed recently one solution - use gold shells Smile
Not true. Lowe, t34, su-122-44 get normal matchmaking as tier 8 and therefore can get into tier 10 battles.

I didn't realise, thought the premiums all got preferred MM but now I'm even happier I saved a few quid and bought the best too! KV5 ftw! Smile

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Post  Vampir_Kifla on Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:51 pm

Boos B wrote:
Rancidpunk wrote:Your Lowe's and other tier 8 premiums won't normally get tier tens unless you are in a platoon with non premium tier 8's. If it's changed recently one solution - use gold shells Smile
Not true. Lowe, t34, su-122-44 get normal matchmaking as tier 8 and therefore can get into tier 10 battles.
Umm, SU-122-44 is tier 7, therefore cannot get into t10 matches (unless platooning). Max t9.

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Post  Boos B on Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:01 pm

Vampir_Kifla wrote:
Boos B wrote:
Rancidpunk wrote:Your Lowe's and other tier 8 premiums won't normally get tier tens unless you are in a platoon with non premium tier 8's. If it's changed recently one solution - use gold shells Smile
Not true. Lowe, t34, su-122-44 get normal matchmaking as tier 8 and therefore can get into tier 10 battles.
Umm, SU-122-44 is tier 7, therefore cannot get into t10 matches (unless platooning). Max t9.
Obviously you are right, but you understood what I meant Razz

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Post  AndyScouser on Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:37 pm

Rancidpunk wrote:Your Lowe's and other tier 8 premiums won't normally get tier tens unless you are in a platoon with non premium tier 8's. If it's changed recently one solution - use gold shells Smile

I hardly ever platoon in the t34 and mostly get t10 battles. The Lowe, I get less, it feels.

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Post  Boos B on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:36 pm

that can be correct. The matchmaking weight of each tank is partially dependent on the performance of said tank. The t-34 is generally better performing then the Lowe (god know how, I still don't get it). Therefore, the weight can be slightly adjusted, which reflects in your observations Wink.

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Post  SgtBarnes75 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:41 pm

Another thanks to Rancidpunk, after watching your positioning and pointing out I was too far away in the IS3 I tried new tactics and bingo ! Big cheesy grin on my face Very Happy


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Post  AndyScouser on Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:05 pm

IS3, get in their faces Wink

What part of Lancashire are you from Sgt? Im from Burscough a little village outside of Ormskirk btw.

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